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Danial_imran06 — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:21:31 -0000

This is info from the accident investigation report, from the French version of the NTSB (I believe), the BEA:

A. Mixed ground test crew of 9 on board: some from Airbus proper, based there in Toulouse, some from the Abu Dhabi-based contractor working on the airline’s behalf.

3 people in the cockpit for the test: 2 from Airbus, one from the contractor.

Running the test, in the right seat of the cockpit, in charge of the all controls: Airbus technician, 15 yr employee, 9 yrs experience testing these engines. When he was alerted that the aircraft was moving, his only actions were to kill the parking brake while simultaneously stomping on the main brakes.

In the left seat, observing the test: contractor employee, alerted the test tech that the aircraft was moving. Has no specified role in the test other than to observe.

In the “service” seat (like the navigator’s seat, only the A340 ain’t got no navigator, I don’t believe): Airbus-employed test pilot, 9 yrs experience as a professional pilot, 7 as a test pilot, not type rated (i.e., not an A340 pilot), perhaps a manager qualified to supervise such tests. Once again, no specific role other than to observe, but in the end it was him who pulled the throttles back.

B. There were two main causes: 1) no chocks were used to hold the aircraft’s wheels in place during the test. 2) All four engines were brought to full power to test one leaky engine. Procedures required the use of chocks and running up two engines - the one leaking and one on the other wing (to prevent torquing and yawing of the fuselage). These two procedures had been frequently ignored by all Airbus technicians at the test center for some time.

Short answer: the test was done improperly, not in accordance with written procedures and standards. The fault of the Airbus technician.

Contributing causes: 1) the full power of four engines is almost exactly equal to the braking power of the A340s parking brake and the frictional coefficient of the test area’s tarmac, hence the aircraft only moved when shaking of the aircraft and the burning off of fuel lessened the overall braking coefficient. 2) The technician tried to use the brakes alone to stop the aircraft rather than retarding the throttles as well.

C. Fun fact: the numbers 3 and 4 engines could not be shut down after impact because the throttle control connection to them had been severed. No. 4 was finally killed over two-and-a-half hours later when enough water and fire-fighting foam had been pumped into it to snuff it out. The No. 3 engine died at 1:25 am the next morning - 9 hrs later - when it ran out of gas: it was too jammed into the wall to get any water/foam into it. Now THAT’S hi-larious. And not a bad advertisement for Rolls-Royce engines, it seems to me.

Yeah, the “news” account above is one of those made up slander e-mails, urban legend-style. No evidence of any cover-up, the photos were widely-disseminated right away (as you can see by the date of this blog report), once the accident investigating was done, no reason why the plane wouldn’t be cleaned up right away. Doesn’t look too good for an airport to have a crashed aircraft anywhere on its tarmac.

Lesson: racists are racists - go ahead and call them that - and don’t believe what you read on the internet, particularly the clearly racist stuff. Oh, and those of you who believed this stuff and called yourselves professional pilots, you’re not. I am.

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Amanmail — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:04:59 -0000

Hmmm, leaving aside the racism, the quoted “news” story sounds kinda fishy to me.

Based on Jasper knowledge, here’s what I see wrong already:

A340-600 isn’t the largest passenger airplane ever built. The Boeing 747-800 and 773 and even Airbus’ own 380 are larger. [Supposed to soung longer]

Generally, you don’t have an aircrew (pilots) do initial engine run-up checks and you don’t have a ground crew “taxi” an aircraft for such checks. The a/c is towed to the test site/run-up area.

How does pulling the Ground Proximity Sensor c/b silence the “takeoff configuration” warning horn? Ground Proximity Sensor warning is disabled w/ the gear down (as during a ground test), otherwise landings would be REALLY annoying and pilots might avoid them altogether. (Also, Ground Proximity doesn’t have anything to do with the power setting: it’s based on altitude.)

Oh, wait, and pulling such a c/b doesn’t “fool” the aircraft into thinking anything (like, say, that it’s in the air). That wouldn’t release the brakes. Not unless the French are really stupid design engineers (and that doesn’t have anything to do with the “muslums”).

I don’t know about an A340, but all the wheeled aircraft that I’ve flown can be landed with their brakes on. Rarely, however, is it recommended.

I’ll see if I can find the accident report.

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Danial_imran06 — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:55:41 -0000

Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies (ADAT) employs a france and USA national technical expert to conduct static test.. Why to blame religions? May god throw Sin upon anti religious individuals..

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Name — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 00:36:58 -0000

That is absolutely positively impossible to repair that plane in 3 weeks. I worked structures/stress engineering on Cessna Jets and a few props...in one case we had two planes collide (reasonable speed, one plane sitting, another being taxied) in which the wing of one plane went through the tail cone of another just aft of the aft pressure bulkhead. The tip of the wing ripped through 4 frames, buckled both engine beams...over 3 weeks of just ripping the plane apart to find problems. Ended up replacing the entire tailcone! Re-install took MONTHS! And comparatively the damage on this plane is catastrophic. Can you imagine the re-install of the avionics? SNAP! That thing won't be in the air in probably over a year, honestly.

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Watch Movies Online — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:54:53 -0000

No kidding that the airbus did not survive, in this case pictures are worth a thousand words.

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Hmdd — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:19:42 -0000

this is a Hoax.think about and have a brain. :)

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Vincent Malourah — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:49:35 -0000

The plane was repaired, it took 3 weeks to get it ready but the order was canceled and this paritcular plane is now on banana republican dutys.

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peace — Sat, 30 May 2009 02:39:29 -0000

be quiet and go away

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SmackThoseMuslims — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:07:00 -0000

Muslims are insulted no matter what you say! They need to OWN UP like a man and admit they screwed up! Who do they think they are? And where do they get all this money to buy and outfit these awesome planes! Thank the USA for that! Why aren't they feeding the poor with all this money???? They fly better than us obviously, so tell the Muslims to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!

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Jasper — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:03:21 -0000

Just a routine run-up check. The manual is handy if needed.

The brand spanking new Airbus 340-600, the largest passenger airplane ever built, sat in its hangar in Toulouse, France without a single hour of airtime. Enter the Arab flight crew of Abu Dhabi Aircraft Technologies (ADAT) to conduct pre-delivery tests on the ground, such as engine run-ups, prior to delivery to Etihad Airways in Abu Dhabi.

The ADAT crew taxied the A340-600 to the run-up area. Then they took all four engines to takeoff power with a virtually empty aircraft. Not having read the run-up manuals, they had no clue just how light an empty A340-600 really is.

The takeoff warning horn was blaring away in the cockpit because they had all 4 engines at full power. The aircraft computers thought they were trying to take off but the aircraft had not been configured properly (flaps/slats, etc.) Then one of the ADAT crew decided to pull the circuit breaker on the Ground Proximity Sensor to silence the alarm.

This fooled the aircraft into thinking it was in the air.

The computers automatically released all the brakes and set the aircraft rocketing forward. The ADAT crew had no idea that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't land with the brakes on.

Not one member of the seven-man Arab crew was bright enough to throttle back the engines from their max power setting, so the $200 million brand-new aircraft crashed into a blast barrier, totaling it.

The extent of injuries to the crew is unknown for there has been a news blackout in the major media in France and elsewhere. Coverage of the story was deemed insulting to Muslim Arabs. Finally, the photos leaked out

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free slots — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:08:19 -0000

That doesn't look like an airbus that I want to fly in anytime soon!

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Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:36:34 -0000

Last word's on the CVR, did we put the parking brake on ?

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Yourmom — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:34:47 -0000

some one will feel that in the morning

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Simone — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:22:42 -0000

WOW! Someone isn't sleeping well these days.....